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Time for me to weigh in on this issue. Two things happened to me over this last week that led to this blog.

One was I listened to an interview on the Sean Hannity show between him and three other women about Islam and Sharia law. It was a forum, two against, and one more or less for. In relation to the Imam and his opinions and the Mosque.

The second thing was this video on the Libertarian Facebook page:

Now I want to cover the video first because it was interesting…especially since I just found out the identity of the person who made that video.

Now first off I disagree with many of his assertions and think he did an unfair portrayal of the debate.

In fact I believe he committed the same crime that he accused the ‘Conservative Leaders’ of doing.


He assumed that the only reason that anyone can be against this Mosque was because those persons are bigots, that they hate Muslims and anyone with brown skin. Even daring to suggest and compare this as being akin to a brown free zone and suggesting that is what the big beef is.

Sure there might be a few people who believe that rushing to condemn this Mosque, but how can he assume this of the entire group and anyone who is against this Mosque?

How can he even go into the hearts and minds of the leader and draw the conclusion that they want a white only zone, when they have not made the assertion themselves. Please show me if I am wrong.

That is bigotry, the same exact thing that he accuses them of doing.

And it is disgusting.

Apparently no one can have legitimate concerns about this Mosque, this cultural center, this whatever.

No one can raise concerns over the rhetoric of the Imam, of the Muslims who are building this, of the funding, of whatever, regardless of their opinion on whether it should be built or not or whether or not they have the right to their property.

But this is especially shocking when Sarah Palin, Newt, and a lot of the ‘leaders’ here are taking the Libertarian way of doing things. Especially in the case of Glenn Beck.

Well mostly. I mean some of the protesters here want the Government to take action and stop this, declare imminent domain, make up a new law prohibiting it, or declare a store a historic site.

But the person making this video is quick to point out that there are many Mosques in New York, in the general area, and there is a Pussy Cat Lounge or whatever also in the vicinity. Why are they even any better to put in an area then a Mosque? He declares.

People are looking at this wrong.

Again shocking because I thought these were Libertarians I was dealing with and not Collectivists.

They (the ‘leaders’ in question) are dealing with this as the individual.

They are dealing with this Imam, with this, Mosque, with this funding base, and with this group of followers.

As an individual. Protesting and trying to apply their own pressure and declaring that they will not help in the building of this Mosque.

No one asks why they are doing it, all they ask, because I guess they assume that they are bigots, is that why are they not protesting the other 100? Now why is that?

Could it be they have concerns about that specific Mosque? About the rhetoric and the funding and all that?

They could be wrong, they could be wrong in their methods (getting the Government to enforce their will), they could be wrong in their opinions about this guy, he could be an angel.

But it is their right and they are dealing with this properly.

Individuals coming together in a group and protesting something that they consider to be a threat.

And also wondering why a Greek Orthodox Church will not be built in the area and why the Government of NY is steam rolling them but so hell bent on extending the rights to these Muslims.

Which brings up that it seems in cases like this that Libertarians are so hell bent on rushing into a situation to ‘save’ people from the evil Conservatives and the evil religious bigots, and rushing into a situation without thinking about that they could be bigots themselves. Such a rush to judgment without thinking or looking at the actual facts of the case or the reasons, just assuming anyone other then them are state-ist, fascist, bigots.

And while they are doing what we should be doing, what any of them should be doing.

You see we have a right to ask questions and form opinions. It is the right and the responsibility of any responsible Journalist, opinion maker, or truth seeker to ask the questions.

Because in the Sean Hannity interview I think he missed the point.

You see he was asking the women about Sharia law, their opinions on what it was.

And over the week two different versions of the Imam have come out.

Either he is a man who believes America is evil and is trying to slap us in the face and make us Sharia Compliant with this Mosque and preach radical views of Islam.

Or he is an agent of our Government, speaking at the FBI about Islam to try to be a force for good, and an agent of our Government going abroad to preach tolerance and bridge building.

Either Sharia law is a radical sect of Islam that preaches the molestation, the rape, and the stoning of women and children who step out of line.

Or it is the Islamic version of Christian Law, the faith, the peace, the tolerance, the building of bridges.

You see Hanity missed the boat. Big time.

You see instead of worrying about the opinion of the three women, instead of worrying about a general consensus of what Islam believes Sharia law to be, we should be worrying about the opinions of the Imam. Ask him the questions, and then form the opinions from those answers.

Are you good? Are you evil? Are you an agent of darkness or an agent of bridge building?

Are you trying to build this Mosque as a symbol to preach faith, to build bridges, or are you doing it as a slap in the face of the American people?

Never mind your opinion about the Jews, or about the United States or their role in ‘creating’ terrorism, never mind any of this, will you join us in condemning Hamas, and any other terrorist network? Will you stand with us in condemning evil or are you going to stand by and be silent? Or worse are you complicate?

We deserve answers to these opinions and these questions, and if you waffle we just might take your silence…well whatever way we want.

We need to find this out, whether they have the right to that piece of property or not. Whether they have a right to build that Mosque is in the end irrelevant.

Because we can still form an opinion and know what we are up against.

And on a sort of btw unrelated note, but not really, I was given a link to an article by a friend of mine called ‘Foxworthy Authoritarians’

Now I disagreed with most of the opinions and the points, good article but one thing gave me a great chuckle.

In his article he made asked the question:

If your world view allows you to make endless exceptions for Israel’s national police to bash heads, erect walls, and turn the Gaza Strip into a concentration camp, you might be an authoritarian.

Now you would think that since the Israelis have been the most conspicuous victims of ‘Concentration Camps’ you think they would know how to build them better.

Because its funny I did not know that the Germans could not control the area or let weapons and missiles through.

It’s funny that I did not also realize know that the Jews could have launched rockets out of their concentration camps and kill thousands of German Civilians.

Or that they pledged to wipe Germany off the map.

Its funny, I know. (not really, tragic comes to mind)



  1. A+ would read again

  2. from what i’ve read about Shariah Law though it does sound like the very antithesis of our constitution

  3. Great Blog….and I think you get at the heart of the issue. Since when are people bigots for wanting to investigate someone’s motives and/or ask some hard questions? I mean honestly ….that would be like a jury being called racists if they wanted to see evidence on the trial of a black man who committed murder by people saying they only wanted to just convict him because he’s black. No! It’s because they want to look over the evidence to determine if his is guilty or not. *sigh*

    • You make perfect sense ;).

      And yes people are called rascists when you do that.

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